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Saturday, September 20, 2014
Who Is Jesus, Who Is Sananda, Apollonius of Tyana, Christ and Sanat Kumara? A Gnostic Disquisition
by Georgi Stankov Posted on September 19, 2014
by Nel Verburgt and Georgi Stankov, September 19, 2014
First and foremost, I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for what you have been doing for humanity and for all of us. I do not have the words to express my gratitude, but when you returned on writing on your website my thought was that all of humanity should thank you. As this is not to be expected, I do thank you for it.
In your absence, before and until now I have been following Jahn’s messages and channelings and it is such a relief to read the crystal clear information and statements of him and (and from you on your website) and it is of much help and very instructive for me.
But there is one thing that is puzzling me ever since my childhood and that is the following.
In your latest conversation about how the light workers failed to ascend, you mentioned that Jesus is Jesus Apollonius of Tyana. As I started to follow your website since May 2013 I did not read about it earlier. For many years now I have been reading about the bible and all the distorted writings and lies in it, because as a child I intuitively rejected parts of the bible my father was reading to us and I had a severe quarrel with him about it.
Also I have searched to find out who Jesus was, Immanuël, Yeshua, Sananda, Sananda Kumara and so on. Looking at the picture of Apollonius of Tyana it gives me the strong feeling and confirmation he is the one about whom is written in the Bible. Also the message by Jon Roberts about Apollonius of Tyana confirms this to me. So in fact the one called Jesus never existed? Then who is Sananda? Is Sananda then a totally different person? And is Sananda the same person as Sananda Kumara (not Sanat Kumara, but probably from the same family?).
And what is puzzling me also already for a long time: who is the Christ and where does he (or it) comes from? Is it a title, as I read somewhere? The symbols on Jahn’s website are very old Christ symbols from before the existence of Apollonius of Tyana, so Christ exists already for a very, very long time. Then what is the history? Christ consciousness; is Krishna from India related to Christ and if so, what is the story then?
It was also a very, very welcome revelation from Jahn that the whole story of the crucifixion of Christ was a lie, because I have been struggling with this cross for many lifetimes.
Would you be so kind to indicate where I can find additional information about this? I do not often ask questions, but this is something so profound I could not resist the temptation to ask. Most of the time I just read the information, store it in my personal “waiting room” in my mind till one day I receive the right answer. So I really hope you can help me to find more answers to this very puzzling matter.
thank you very much for your appreciation of my work and I am very happy to hear that this website has helped you better understand the current very complex times.
Now to your questions. I do not pretend to have the ultimate answers, rather these are my personal interpretations. Sananda is the name of the soul monad ( a big group of soul families), which has firmly moved to the causal worlds and has finished with the incarnation cycle a long time ago. However such monads may, from time to time, send an incarnated representative to the earth with a global mission. To my interpretation, Apollonius of Tyana was such a representative of the Sananda monad.
There were many more incarnates at that time that were linked to the Sananda monad, as is also the case now with the group of the light warriors of the first and the last hour (the PAT). By the way, many of these monads were also incarnated at the time of Apollonius, as this is the continuation of the same mission of ascending humanity.
The word “Christ” comes from Ancient Greek and it indeed goes much further in the past, before the time of Apollonius. In means simply “the anointed”, a divine person. In fact this term was introduced only later during the synod times, when the Reptilian emperor Constantine the “Small” established the Christ myth in order to adapt it to the Sun myth, which his father followed and thus to legitimize his divinity.
The book “Antiquity Unveiled”, which the grand-grand father of Jon Roberts wrote and which I and he published some time ago, deals with this issue and it is excellent and very scholarly written, with a lot of background knowledge, which is now very difficult to find. I can confirm this as I also wrote a historical survey on “Neoplatonism and Christianity”, which deals with the same time between the 1st and the 4th century a.c., when all the dogmas of Christianity were firmly established and the original teachings of Apollonius were hidden or forged.
Jesus in the bible is a composite of his life and that of one of his pupil, known as Ben Jeshua, when he established the order of the Essene in Jerusalem. This person then moved to South France with his family and followers and founded the movement of the Katharer, about whom I have also written in the past. Apollonius lived until 96 a.c. and was in his late years an adviser to several Roman emperors and visited Jerusalem one more time before or after it was destroyed, I do not remember now.
The Christed energies are an overarching term for the white Light from the Source that was brought for the first time on this planet after the fall of Atlantis by the monad Sananda. Of course other ascended masters and angelic forces have also contributed to this light as it is ubiquitous in All-That-Is. One should not stick slavishly to words, as they are a poor substitute for the actual complexity of these energies.
Now we have the gold-violet flame /energies of the Source. Carla, my dual soul, is a cochan, a bearer, of this flame now, after St. Germain has delegated this duty to her. I, myself, am bearer of the blue flame of Source’s divine will and so on. But we both are also Logos Gods of the new 4D worlds and of Gaia 5. In this respect we now have the same function as Sanat Kumara, who is a different entity from Sananda, most probably an Elohim like us and has now delegated this duty to us.
The crucifixion of Jesus did not take place on this mother planet, as no such physical entity has ever existed, but it might have taken place on parallel timelines. The story, which Jahn received from Sananda, reflects this fact, but remains very much personally bound because at that time Jahn was not aware of the multidimensionality of all events. He learnt this aspect only later on from me, when I established contact with him.
After that also the messages of Sananda changed, they widened their point of view. Hence this book should not be taken at face value, but should be interpreted in this context. The key message is that there was no crucifixion at the beginning of Christianity.This was an insidious invention of the Orion empire to derail the initial teachings of Apollonius and create a new myth that all light gestalts that incarnate on this earth should be sacrificed, killed by the Orion elite – at that time by the Pharisees and the Roman rulers -, and hence not be able to fulfill their mission to awaken humanity.
This lie was reinforced by the creation of a third personality, Saint Paul, to whom the initial epistles of Apollonius and those of Buddha, which he brought from his journey to India, were attributed. The Orion elite made St. Paul a Roman citizen, coming from the same part in Minor Asia, Kilikien, from where also Apollonius came.
We observe this trend of sacrificing old souls and spiritual teachers for the sake of humanity to this very day This pattern is very dangerous as it undermines the very foundation of all gnostic knowledge that life in the light is full of joy and a sense of immortality, as will be the case in the 5D and to some extent also in the new 4D worlds, which we have created.
This is just a quick overview of the many basic questions you have posed to me and I do not know any relevant book that will clear these questions except the two mentioned above. Also you may read Philostratus’ biography on Apollonius, which was miraculously saved from the burning down of the Alexandrian library with the aim of destroying all facts and reports regarding the life of this real person that would have questioned the validity of all Christian claims throughout the last 2000 years.
With love and light
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